Darn, we have upset some Mexicans

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bush is a friggin moron .. i can't wait until he's outta office
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If anything, we should use Mexico as an example of how to treat illegal aliens. It would be hard for them to argue against their own policies. In case you are not aware, the Mexicans do not allow illegal aliens under any circumstance. They are brutal in their enforcement of their policies.

As far as the fence, fences do work and that is why Mexico is against it. Nothing is 100% but the fence would keep it manageable for our Border Patrol to stay on top of it.
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here, here

The Rev. Luis Kendziersky, director of "Casa del Migrante," a shelter for migrants in the city of Tijuana across the border from San Diego, California, said it appeared senators "are focused more on the political game than on the real needs of the people."

That one sentence would be hilarious if it wasnt so irritating at the same time. I love how people like him like to pretend the majority of our country are on the illegals side instead of it being exactly the opposite.

Spot on, brother.

I just had to repost this:

Monday, May 22, 2006
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A MEXICAN CUT YOUR PENSION OR HEALTH BENEFITS?

SAM SMITH - Whenever a new crisis develops in an election year and it's not nature's or the stock market's fault, the odds are pretty good that it's not a crisis.

Witness the sudden discovery of immigrants, a much more comfortable topic for some than Iraq, global warming, globalization, or runaway corporate greed.

The debate, however, has its bizarre aspects. For example, the Texas Rangers, who should know, list their last serious concerns with Mexican terrorists as occurring nearly 100 years ago when "when authorities in McAllen, Texas, arrest Basilio Ramos, Jr. Ramos is carrying a copy of the Plan of San Diego, a revolutionary manifesto supposedly written and signed at the South Texas town of San Diego. It calls for the formation of a 'Liberating Army of Races and Peoples,' of Mexican Americans, African Americans, and Japanese, to 'free' the states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Colorado from United States. Versions of the plan call for the murder of all white citizens over 16 years of age. The goal is an independent republic, which might later seek annexation to Mexico.' Since then things have been pretty quiet, although some guerillas from another continent did considerable damage in 2001 by using the border crossing technique known as "buying airline tickets."

But it's not really about terrorism. It's about finding a scapegoat for America's increasing problems. What America's white elite is doing is just what its southern branch did under segregation: teach non-elite whites to blame their problems on a minority. It worked well then and it seems to be working now.

But those wishing to test the extent of the immigrant problem might want to conduct this quick test:

1. Has a Mexican ever fired or laid you off?

2. Was the plant you worked for until it was sent overseas been bought by Mexicans or is it still owned by the same people you used to work for?

3. Has a Mexican ever cut your pension or health benefits? Outsourced your job to India?

4. How much does Latin America contribute to global warming and its results - such as bigger hurricanes and more tornados - compared with the United States?

5. Was Enron run by Mexicans?

6. Are Mexicans responsible for NSA's spying you?

7. Do you think Mexicans or the pharmaceutical corporations are more responsible for high drug costs?

8. How much of the corruption in Washington has been instigated by the Mexicans?

9. Did the Mexicans' make us invade Iraq?

10. Are the Mexicans responsible for George bush being so dumb?

Chances are most your answers will be in the negative which is a clue to stop spending so much time worrying about immigration and turn your attention to something else.

You just had to repost this? I am not sure if you know how blogs work but your blog is located here (I added link so that you would be able to find it) and you can feel free to repost anything that you want. Also, my initial reaction was to delete your “repost” because it is somewhat of a pet peeve of mine when someone is so intellectually lazy as to take some other post and paste it into my blog as some sort of argument. I do not know if you are too lazy to come up with your own argument, too ignorant or what your issue is. After reading the post that you reposted I am leaning to the fact that it is probably ignorance.

My post was not about terrorists and I never claimed that Mexicans were terrorists but I and other clear thinking Americans can and should be upset about anyone who breaks our laws and at the same time cost us billions of dollars every year.

Here is something that you can read (notice I did not repost it on your blog).
After reading it you will hopefully taken notice of a couple of things. First I hope that you see that illegal alien households cost the American taxpayers (that is us legal citizens with jobs) 89 billion dollars a year!!

It also explains that low-skilled immigrant households in the U.S. received about $10,000 more in government benefits than does the average U.S. household, about $30,160 every year in immediate benefits and services for every low-skill immigrant household.

Are these not valid arguments against illegal immigration? I would think that they are better arguments than anything that you put together in your repost. Speaking of your repost, one of the main reasons to leave it and not delete it was to illustrate the level of your ignorance. You actually posted this as a rebuttal to my posting? Most of it has nothing to do with illegal immigration!

1. Has a Mexican ever fired or laid you off?
The problem I have with this question is that it shows you to be an ignorant racist fool! Is it at all possible that a Mexican could be in upper management or even a business owner and actually fired or laid someone off before? According to your question it would suggest that no Mexican is bright enough to ever reach such a position. What a racist idiot!

2. Was the plant you worked for until it was sent overseas been bought by Mexicans or is it still owned by the same people you used to work for?
I do not work for plants. I grow some in my yard, even some shrubs and trees but I have never worked for one and I do not know anyone who has.

3. Has a Mexican ever cut your pension or health benefits? Outsourced your job to India?

Nope, but a Mexican did run a red light Friday and cut me and another driver off in traffic. What does that have to do with anything? Nothing but it makes about as good of a point as your reposted question.

Also, our elected officials recently tried to give away billions of dollars to illegal aliens which would have taken Social Security benefits away from millions of Americans.

4. How much does Latin America contribute to global warming and its results - such as bigger hurricanes and more tornados - compared with the United States?
Not sure really. I do not even know what this has to do with illegal immigration (but then neither do you). But to answer your question I first need to know how much meat they eat down there. It turns out that the U.N. says that cows cause more global warming than all the cars and trucks in the world. So if they eat a lot of beef then they are destroying our planet! Find out for me and get back to me and we will see if we can determine how much destruction they are causing.

5. Was Enron run by Mexicans?
I am sorry, I am trying really hard to see the connection to illegal immigration and Enron. That takes some serious liberal logic to make that connection.

6. Are Mexicans responsible for NSA's spying you?
As far as I can tell I have not made or received any calls from terrorist countries which would have opened me up to spying by the NSA. I could go into details about how the NSA wiretapping works but since you are having problems making simple coherent arguments against illegal immigration any such complicated issue as this would probably cause your head to explode. At least we can safely assume that it would be a small explosion.

7. Do you think Mexicans or the pharmaceutical corporations are more responsible for high drug costs?
Hmmm? Only two choices? I think I will go with research costs and government regulations. I know it was not one of the choices but the two choices you laid out made no sense.

8. How much of the corruption in Washington has been instigated by the Mexicans?
Ok you got me here, I give up. How much?

9. Did the Mexicans' make us invade Iraq?
Nope. I would ask what this has to do with illegal immigration but I really do not want to hear your babbling response.

10. Are the Mexicans responsible for George bush being so dumb?
Are Mexicans responsible for your stupidity?

Great repost there Double Dumb (that was a sarcastic statement lest you think I was actually impressed). Please in the future restrain reposting stupidity on my blog. Again, your blog is here, please post your stupidity on your blog and leave the real intellectual arguments to those that can handle it.

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This is great... on many levels.
You can do better than that, a paid for foundation, is not even close to research nor are it senior fellows considered unbias. They have no peer review and are only published by those with an agenda. You need to google foundations and see whose pocket they are in. This is as close to what lobby is by definition.
I hardly know where to start. You actually repost some ignorant rant on my blog that has nothing to do with the argument at hand. Now while I am certain that you felt that your initial post was intelligent and articulate the reality is that it was pure drivel. I was kind enough to respond to your ignorant and racist post and I was hoping for your sake that you would walk away, but as shown by your initial ignorant post you do not have enough common sense or intelligence to know when to call it quits. It would almost be humorous if it were not so pathetic.

So, after I took the time to point out the mistakes in your aforementioned drivel the very best that you can come up with is this? You actually question the validity of the report because it comes from a source that you do not trust. Of course you offer no data to bolster your argument (if we are calling it an argument) which is typical for you and your ilk. So here are a few more instances of money being spent on illegals for you to look at.

Take this, for example. Here is a documented case of a a single family that has cost the tax payers over $300,000 in medical bills and more than $12,000 a year in welfare! It goes on to tell you how "84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system".

Or how about this report which gives more details about the problems with illegals and anchor babies.

Here is some more information for you.

The Houston Chronicle reports:

Even Houston's feeling the pinch. An estimated 70 percent to 80 percent of the 10,587 births at Ben Taub General Hospital and Lyndon B. Johnson General Hospital last year were to undocumented immigrants, administrators say.
More from that same article:

Starr County Memorial Hospital had $3.6 million in uncollected medical bills in 2005, up from $1.5 million in 2002. The total when fiscal 2006 ends on Sept. 30 is expected to hit $3.9 million, chief financial officer Rafael Olivarez said. Unpaid bills for the past five years will reach nearly $13 million, he said.

To make up for the shortfall, Starr County's hospital district is proposing a 25 percent tax hike.

Yeah, I can sure see how all of these illegal aliens who help keep the price of goods low is good for the economy (sarcasm)! We keep the price of goods down so we can pay the higher taxes? Smart, very smart.

I could go on and on. Honestly I even enjoy debating with people who have different ideas than mine because it gives me a chance to question my thinking and see if it is able to stand up to scrutiny. The problem is that you have no ideas of your own. If you do you have yet to express even one of them. Please for your sake try to refrain from putting your stupidity on display for the world to see.

People forget that the issue of illegal immigrants are not solely Mexican people. We do have a problem with illegal immigrants crossing the border without having legal status in our country... I agree.

However, I feel that this issue is something our government influenced to make us blind to the real issues that we are facing... for example people dying in masses in the War in Iraq.

I think like you .. people are missing the big picture.

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